Talk:Wikimania

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Front Page Goals

We are doing targeted outreach to five communities with this conference, as follows:

  • Education (encompassing both education reform and educational technology, i.e. "what we teach and how we teach it")
  • Free Culture (encompassing both modern content creation and appraisal of historical licenses (GLAM))
  • Open Data (encompassing both the challenge of dealing with large data sets and the public release of data sets)
  • Open Scholarship (encompassing open access and open research)
  • Digital Collaboration (encompassing everything from UX, to community management, to gamification, to direct democracy)

For each we are trying to create a "theme" page, which are linked to from the front page. These pages should assume little background understanding of Wikimedia, but a broad understanding of the theme subject area. The goal is to have friendly pages with which we can introduce people working in e.g. Open Data to Wikimedia in such a way as to make them reconsider Wikimedia as an open data project, which they may have never done before ("Isn't it just an encyclopaedia?").

We have been doing research at https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Outreach on each community to get some background on what they are doing, how wikimedia is relevant, and what people and organisations we should target specifically, to help back up these pages.

Videos/slides of the talks

Can Wikimania 2014 please make sure presentations are video recorded and posted on YouTube or Commons? And linked from the page about the presentation? I would like to have the ability to watch Wikimania 2013 videos/see slides of talks, but from the talk page there it appears to be a neglected endeavor. Biosthmors (talk) 16:45, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We hope to have edited versions of the talks uploaded same day. It's easy to underestimate the amount of work this takes, though EdSaperia (talk) 10:47, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Slides for Wikimania 2013 are now available here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_2013_presentations Lawsonstu (talk) 17:45, 1 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't able to make it to Wikimania. It appears that all the videos are uploaded to LiveStream so far. Can we please get these copied to Commons! Zellfaze (talk) 20:03, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
EdSaperia, Lawsonstu: See commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Annoying User, Good Content.JPG. Do Wikimania team collected the permission for free use for all slides used in Wikimania? Or we need to contact individual copyright holders directly. Jkadavoor (talk) 17:05, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I'm aware, it's the latter. To meet Commons' standards there must a clear written record of the copyright holder releasing the slides into the public domain or under a free license. The terms at Submissions#Submissions are unlikely to be legally enforceable, and even if they were, they don't apply to Jimbo's presentation as noted at the DR. CT Cooper · talk 21:26, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Anyway this case now settled. Jkadavoor (talk) 08:37, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Some thoughts...

We should streamline this quite a bit in my view, so it's easier for people to work out where they want to click.

  • How about asking visitors the question "What are you most interested in?" and dividing the space which currently has the links to the themes into a 2x3 grid with link to a theme page in each cell?
  • Many of the navigation links on the left-hand side and under the header are redundant. E.g. "Activities" has "Fringe, Hackathon, and Programme"; FAQ is prominent in both while the FAQ isn't an important call to action for us.

Any views... ? The Land (talk) 14:13, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

definitely - I'm working on cutting it down as much as I can. Lots of the pages are blank anyway! It's not a huge priority at the moment though, I don't consider this page particularly "live" yet. EdSaperia (talk) 19:31, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WIKImania

In my Opinion Wiki in Wikimania reffers to Wikimedia and mostly Wikipedia. But what I miss are the Wikiprojects. I see Open Data, Open Education, Open Access and so on. Everything OK, but not our main goal. We can't do everything. There are also other fishes in the pond said Sue Gardner once, as I remember correct. So why Wikipedia now is nearly missing at the Wikimanias? Where is our Community? The Community who finances this all with their work, the work that brings all the money? All these things are aspects we can talk about at a Wikimania. But the most important thing should be Wikipedia and their sister projects and in the center should stand our volunteers, our authors, our photographers. The way of the Wikimanias to a meeting of the whole world is not the right way, I think. And I know, I don't speak only for me. Yes, we need input from outsite. Yes, we need to work with other free projects. But in center of all are the Questions: how can we do it better in and with our Wikimedia projects! How to write good articles, how to make good fotos, movies and graphics, how to work with free sources at Wikisource and how to solve with linguistic problems at Wictionary. I don't want to meet at a Wikimania the half staff of the Foundation, I don't want to meet the Staff of the Chapters. I want to meet authors, photographers, graphic designers, mediawiki hackers. People how understand my Wikimedia world. The Foundation and the Chapters wonder, why we lost authors. Ever realy thought about it? Maybe because of not the author is still the "important" person. No "important" seems to be the bureaucrats and administrators (and no, I don't talk about our project administrators). For these you have the Wikimedia Conference. The Wikimania was our meetup! I want it back! Wikimania for the Authors! Marcus Cyron (talk) 02:35, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Marcus. I think User:EdSaperia is best placed to respond to this, but I'd say that all of the outreach to other communities at Wikimania is not meant to replace discussions with Wikimedians, but is in addition to it. Wikimedians can still propose any kind of talk they want to. Wikimania is still very much for contributors, we are just trying to extend the contributor base and find additional ways to make Wikimedia projects even better. - Lawsonstu (talk) 08:37, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Marcus: User:Lawsonstu says it right. Think of the landing page like this - it's a bait and switch to get people who would be good new contributors interested with our projects. Each of the theme pages will be all about how Wikimedia relates to these areas, and ways that people can get involved. It's easy to forget that even people we consider members of our community don't know everything that is going on! EdSaperia (talk) 10:35, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Since latest 2006 (first Academy in Göttingen/Germany) we try to encourage other people to become Wikimedians - mostly without any success. And you now will start with a Wikimania (!) the 10.000th attempt to have the first time success? Sorry. I can't belive it. You should do something for the authors who are still there! We are the main goal - or you can call it whatever you want, but not Wikimania. Wikimania is OUR meetup, I said it before. Latest since Washington it's occupied be hundreds of other people outsite of our projects. But at the end it brings nearly nothing to our Wikimedia projects. It's fine, if also possible new editors will be there, it's fine, if there people from OSM, free knoledge projects, etc. But this only can be one of some programme ponints. The other points are for us! Or it will be not a Wikimania! But then we authors are betrayed once more. And in London and in Frisco the staff will take a look in their statistics and they will see, that there are not comming much more people, but a lot of longtime authors will leave. Because they see, how misrespected they are. If this sounds angry - then because I'm angry about it. And sad. Marcus Cyron (talk) 20:46, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I understand what you're saying. Don't worry, the programme will be all from the community. There are good hackers in London though, who will like the projects, and have a lot to contribute. EdSaperia (talk) 23:16, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
At Wikimedia in Hongkong, I could not help the impression that Wikipedians and active contributors to the Wikimedia projects were somewhat underrepresented. When I talked to one of them, he said to me "I'm *only* an author". The "only" in his sentence seemed to be totally wrong, but I cannot help it kind of represents the way some authors felt at the conference. While this, of course, is just a personal observation, I have discussed it with several others ant think we can see some tendency here. We should definitely take this serious. So I second Marcus here and suggest we take some efforts to bring Wikimania back to the Community. --Mglaser (talk) 15:35, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for bringing this up, we definitely don't want our own community to feel excluded so any suggestions on how to avoid that are most welcome. - Lawsonstu (talk) 17:59, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
A geonotice inviting UK Wikipedians to discuss what events they want as editors would probably help. Targeting other potential European attendees in a similar manner should also be considered IMHO. -- Trevj (talk) 15:12, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Contemporaneous chapter activities?

For those editors who can't make it to London for the event, I think it would be nice to coordinate "mini-Wikimania" events to be held by individual chapters in cities around the world. Ideally, the London presentations can be livecast so that participants in other countries can watch them, and perhaps comment or otherwise participate in real time, and events happening in places like New York, Los Angeles, and Sydney could similarly be livecast in London. Cheers! BD2412 (talk) 20:25, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I really like that idea! - Lawsonstu (talk) 08:21, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Imagine world?

It's my first visit to this page and I'm only a beginner at Wikipedia...so I'm not sure if I'm allowed to mention anything here...but, isn't the opening sentence on the main page missing the word "a"...or something?

"Imagine (a?) world in which every single person on the planet
is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge."

When I click to view the source, there's even an extra space...so I think it's a typo...but maybe I'm wrong, sorry. o_o ZeniffMartineau (talk) 07:49, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have made the change, thanks for spotting it! - Lawsonstu (talk) 10:53, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
That was fast! Thanks! :D ZeniffMartineau (talk) 18:34, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Steph's Notes

Those are the notes from my initial meeting with Ed, a reminder of things I need to make happen:

  • Read existing and add as needed
  • Volunteer recruitment
  • End of March ticketing opens.
  • Add Link / pictures
  • Reach out to Yammer / Sponsors
  • Reach outreach team
  • Ideas for groups to reach out to add to channel page with details for this group.
  • Check previous wm sites
  • [Done] What university do I know to reach out to - Durham /Cambridge
  • Design posters templates: don't do a talk, design a poster to attract collaborators to help you work on the topic
  • Check Page called booklets on Wiki, check what's there and create template

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sthommen (talk • contribs) 18:04, 13 January 2014 (UTC).[reply]

Wikimedia projects and Wikipedia in the text

«Wikimedia projects now have over 21 billion hits per month for content collaboratively created by over thirty million contributors, putting it in the top five sites globally, and one of the largest online communities.»

It is spoken about "Wikimedia projects" first and then "it" is "in the top five sites globally" (which is obviously about Wikipedia). Correct this please 'cause I don't know what should be left in this paragraph. -- Ата (talk) 18:18, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Site design

The custom typeface used on this website renders very poorly in Google Chrome on Windows 7. (See screenshot; note the bottom of letter forms and the letters E and F.) It should probably be changed. Furthermore, if the font size for body text is to be larger, the same should probably apply to indented comments, lists, etc. wctaiwan (talk) 20:31, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Trying to figure out how to fix these things, if you know anyone who might know, please tell me! EdSaperia (talk) 12:49, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think it has something to do with this: http://www.dev-metal.com/fix-ugly-font-rendering-google-chrome/ 85.159.94.23 14:41, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. In addition, the color used for visited internal links is very similar to the one for internal links. This is an issue, for example, when going through submissions, because it's difficult to distinguish the new ones from those one has already visited. I could tweak the CSS in my personal vector.css, but I'm guessing that I'm probably not the only one affected by this issue, so I'm raising it here :) Guillom (talk) 08:15, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@KimiLawrie, Samballand99, Krinkle: I came here to raise the same concern. Please please change the visited link color back to the default, or give it a HELL of a lot more contrast.
It's stored in MediaWiki:Vector.css and the usual mediawiki color is #0b0080. I have perfect vision, and can barely detect which links I've clicked on at Category:Submissions currently (#0082C0 vs #2c98cb... really??). Please fix this serious accessibility issue, a.s.a.p. Thank you. Quiddity (talk) 02:26, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
YesY Done PiRSquared17 (talk) 02:29, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, it seems that the Railway font that is used on the titles e.g. "An annual update on the Wikimedia projects" does not support Greek well enough. Some characters are wrong, though the text is not completely unreadable. I would propose changing it to maybe "Arial Negreta", which is used in the mobile wikimania page. Freezingbrook (talk) 15:29, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A Simple Mistake

In the 'Sponsors' section of the page I found this: 

<gallery mode="nolines" widths=200px>
File:Ask-Logo-Small.jpg|link=http://www.ask.com/
File:Google logo col 874x288.png|link=http://www.google.com
File:L39Logo.png|link=http://level39.co/
File:Wikimedia_Foundation_RGB_logo_with_text.svg|link=http://www.wikimedia.org/|Wikimedia
File:Mathworks.jpg|link=http://www.mathworks.co.uk/
File:Tupperware Logo.gif|link=http://order.tupperware.com/coe/app/home
</gallery>

Look at the 5th line: 

File:Wikimedia_Foundation_RGB_logo_with_text.svg|link=http://www.wikimedia.org/|Wikimedia

This should be: 

File:Wikimedia_Foundation_RGB_logo_with_text.svg|link=http://www.wikimedia.org/

Or, 

File:Wikimedia_Foundation_RGB_logo_with_text.svg|link=http://www.wikimedia.org/|alt=Wikimedia

-- Muntashir 18:31, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Userbox?

I'm going to Wikimania 2014.

Is there a userbox to promote the event? Something several orders of magnitude better than the one I've attempted? - Pointillist (talk) 23:52, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is a basic one on the English Wikipedia too (with a deprecated logo): w:Template:User wikimania10. - Lawsonstu (talk) 15:38, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have made basic userboxes in my en:Wikipedia userspace for all Wikimania's from '05 through '25. Cheers! BD2412 (talk) 17:40, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Vision statement on Main Page

Hi. The main page currently reads:

IMAGINE A WORLD IN WHICH EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE PLANET IS GIVEN FREE ACCESS TO THE SUM OF ALL HUMAN KNOWLEDGE

wmf:Vision isn't quite the same:

Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment.

Probably not a big deal, but of note. --MZMcBride (talk) 15:04, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've corrected it. We might as well use the official one. CT Cooper · talk 17:54, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Wouldn't want to exclude those astronauts :) EdSaperia (talk) 15:36, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Volunteering ad mistake?

I'd just like to point out "[...]delivering an historic event" on the volunteering ad at the top. Should it not be "a historic event"?

Either version can be used in standard English. I prefer 'a' as well, but 'an' isn't technically wrong. - Lawsonstu (talk) 11:09, 4 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Compliments

The landing page is incredibly attractive - lovely to see photos and short blurbs on key speakers, and beautifully laid out. The program looks great, the talks seem very meaty, my mouth is watering. Excited to be here. Bishdatta (talk) 10:32, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes - the site, like the event, was so beautiful. The only thing missing now is an updated main page with clear links to the videos :-) Sj (talk) 10:34, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly ! Lionel Scheepmans ✉ Wiki ou eMail 23:06, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Could you guys see the site notice on the top? If not, please let me know, because then we need to fix it. Thank you.
— Danny B. 06:14, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Link to the Etherpads

Below, you will find a list of etherpads for the sessions.
Please move any content from an etherpad you want to retain to a wiki. The etherpad database is not suitable for any long-term storage — don't expect important data to stay there.

-- FCT Berlin • =>?! • 18:01, 29 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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